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meadefamily



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 10:26 am 
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Great reply Andy!! We where typing at same time. 😀
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Andy's Grooming Barn



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 10:33 am 
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DC - I ask again since you responded to me but didn't answer my question, "We don't know who you are, so please fill us in if you are your own person and if so who you are, where you are from etc., if not we will assume you are Richie, Ken or somebody along those lines as there seems to be multiple posts under different names but really the same person...."
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islandliving



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 11:24 am 
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How can there be any confusion??? We share the islandliving account and have always signed who is commenting. I am not commenting for John, and he is not commenting for me. BUT I can assure everyone reading, that we do share the same views.

Hiding behind multiple user names or refusing to give your name shows me you lack conviction in your arguments. I have a lot more respect for Andy, a business owner willing to state her opinion AND sign her name.

Andy, Kathe, maybe it is time for a new forum, where the admin does not allow attacks and bullying. One that promotes multiple views and opinions, that creates change for the good of our community.

Tracey


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Darby Campbell



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 11:35 am 
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Ms. Kohls, I can give you my history from birth to present but my guess is that it will not satisfy you. If you don't think I'm Darby Campbell I can live with that fact. Or if you think I am Richie or Ken or somebody else which is not the case I can live with that fact also. I would encourage you to work on fixing the problems of the island as opposed to fixating on me.

DC


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Andy's Grooming Barn



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 11:39 am 
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As I though DC, to bad people can not be upfront about who they are but then again there wouldn't be as much nastiness on this forum if they did so that explains why they hide behind factious names and maybe they might actually get something accomplished if they were upfront and honest....then again are some of these people really trying to accomplish anything other than cause trouble? I personally would question that.
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meadefamily



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 12:09 pm 
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DC...I can assure you no one is fixated on you. Get over yourself.
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K.A. Pike



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 12:37 pm 
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I love the posturing on these threads. It's interesting, almost comical, to see how the topic is lost. Everyone based on their position on an issue is judging whether to person should have the right to post or reply.

Since Kathe Meade jumped in, she has added a whole new layer of "rules". She has somehow in her 8 years of affiliation to Beaver Island determined the criteria and a check list you must meet in order to be heard or have a voice on this forum.

How long have you been coming to Beaver Island?
Does your family have a rich history here?
Do you own property here?
How long have you owned it?
Do you just rent in the summer?
How much skin have you left on the island?
Are you using your real name and have you proven to her satisfaction that you really are who you say you are?
Does she perceive that you are no longer visiting the island?
If you have other financial interest in the island that you have not divulged, what is it and what value does it have to us?

At least she has determined that gender is not a qualification.

I'm sure I'm going to get called out again for bullying someone here, but I'm having trouble now with all these new rules and understanding the artificial boundaries.

As Tracey has suggested it might be time for you and Andy to start a new forum. I pretty sure the the BI Chamber has a forum and you might find a home there. They average 6 topics a month and at least 1 view per topic. I'm sure they would welcome your input there.

http://beaverisland.org/board/forum/beaver-island-community-message-board/
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K.A. Pike



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 12:42 pm 
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Damn, Kathe you just keep baiting us.

"DC...I can assure you no one is fixated on you. Get over yourself."

How is that not being a bully. For one that has gone to great lengths to define bullying and proved links to prove your point, you're doing a pretty good job of it yourself.
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meadefamily



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 1:19 pm 
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You take things out on contents and create half truths. Move on Pike. I don't have the time or energy to keep defending your twisting.

I took back my offer for a phone call, as Ken has removed his post so as I see it this thread is over, shut down and TIME TO MOVE on.

Beaver Island is a great place to visit, vacation, and live! You should try it sometime with fresh eyes. Stay positive and have a GREAT day!
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Andy's Grooming Barn



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 5:09 pm 
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I see that Ken went through and changed/edited (it shows at the bottom of each of his statements that he edited them today) many of his nasty post to something different than originally state. Conscience? I don't know what it is but it is nice to know that you are being a little more positive, I personally find you get a lot more accomplished that way. So anyone that reads this thread will find it no long makes sense but then again it was senseless to begin with.

Thank you for changing things Ken.
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islandliving



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 10:46 pm 
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So sad.

John McCafferty
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ktaylor



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Tracey: I had someone point out this statement to me that you posted. I don't bother to read your ramblings, because you are someone just passing through. It is an outright lie. I have not received ANY private messages giving me information about the performance of Dr. White. Someone sent me a facebook message with her experience. That is not the question anyway. Can't you stay on track or does you mouth run before your brain can tell you to shut up.

"Gillespie, Taylor, ...I did work briefly at the health center. I saw patients wait for 30-60 minutes at times for your Dr. White to show up, if she chose to show up. Mr Taylor, I know for a fact people have been private messaging you about incidents of incompetence on the part of our dentist."

I am not an expert on it, but if you were working for the health center when you made your observation, you might have broken HIPPA laws.

PS - After looking over my PM box I found this is the ONLY PM that I have received that was negative.

From: Andy's Grooming Barn
To: ktaylor
Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2017 11:04 pm
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If you are out to ruin BI you are doing a good job as the tourism will be damaged, then again you don't depend on the island to make a living or to even live here for that fact...I am sure you haven't thought of what you are doing to the people here..............I hope you sleep good at night because I couldn't live with myself if I were in your situation but thank god I am not. Although you might be bothering people you want to bother, you are doing more damage to others. Trust me nobody is saying anything good about you out in public here on BI. I don't know what you hope to accomplish but it isn't going to happen this way, at first I thought you might get your point across but that is long gone.

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Gillespie



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 3:06 pm 
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The senseless nature of the thread ONLY pertains to the lack of response of the health center board and the lack of common sense of their one sided defenders! Of course Mr Taylor’s “one sided” thoughts, questions and comments might exist, they are never answered! Why wouldn’t he continue! As I said before, this is WHY the forum was established! As KA Pike said, go to the chamber forum! They were established for the truth I guess? Was the truth ever revealed there? You people keep these threads going with your mindless defense and the real answers are never provided! If you have the answers sought, please provide them, otherwise shut the hell up!
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Andy's Grooming Barn



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 3:32 pm 
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Wow Richie really... I thought these were the rule you are moderating....

We do not moderate posts based on whether we agree or disagree with a particular topic. Everyone is invited and encouraged to post. The rules are:
1.) Please be kind and considerate, and keep the forum constructive.
2.) Please include your name with your post. We value everyone's right to express their views, but in cases where someone else may be negatively impacted by a post or where the lack of a name causes confusion, anonymous posts may be deleted.
3.) Please keep the forum clean and appropriate for any age. Posts which are intended to attack or offend others are not appropriate.
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Kendra Vera Thorson



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 4:00 pm 
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Did you two clowns ever think that the employees of the Health Center and Board members are above this nonsensical banter? What makes you think they have the time or desire to be on here? This forum has become a shit show! Unless you agree with Richie or Ken you are not allowed an opinion!! Telling people to "shut the hell up" Really Richie??? Cant imagine why you are not chosen to be appointed to many boards if this is how you run a community forum!

I copied this from the Health Centers Facebook page... I do believe it has been posted on here before, but of course it was lost in all this ramble!

Recent online discussion covered one side of the story related to Dr. White’s departure from the Beaver Island Rural Health Center building. There’s much more to consider:

• Dr. White exclusively occupies her offices at the health center; all other space is used for many purposes, by visiting professionals and health center staff.
• BIRHC must maintain its non-profit status while leasing space to Dr. White’s private business; and must receive liability protection for occurrences arising from Dr. White’s practice. Loss of non-profit status could shut down health center operations because of our funding structure. Our legal counsel advised us on necessary requirements, which were incorporated into her lease and signed by Dr. White in 2004.
• Dr. White’s rent of $100 per month represents a fraction of the market rate for 721 square feet. The facility fee is based on her share of building operation costs.
• Dr. White has consistently not submitted items required under the terms of her lease in a timely manner, including rent and use fees, insurance certificates, business tax information, and reports. Some items have been delinquent by many months, often submitted only after contact from the health center’s legal counsel.
• At the end of the December, 2016 BIRHC board meeting, a letter from Dr. White was read into the record, indicating that she had moved off the island and would need to renegotiate the terms of her lease. Dr. White was not in attendance at the December and March, 2017 board meetings.
• Letters from our legal counsel were sent out several times, outlining items needed to comply with the lease, and informing Dr. White that lease changes would be considered after all delinquent items were submitted. Some items were never received.
• At the health center’s June 2017 board meeting, Director Bill Johnson stated that he had received an email of lease termination from Dr. White. The board asked that Dr. White confirm by submitting 60-day notice to the board; or submit all delinquent items by the July board meeting if she planned on continuing her practice.
• On July 10, Dr. White submitted a 60-day notice of lease termination, stating that she would vacate the premises no later than September 7; the health center board also voted to terminate Dr. White’s lease.
• On September 5, the health center granted Dr. White an extension until September 30.
• At the September board meeting, Dr. White requested another extension until October 15, due to the death of her brother a week before. The board voted to extend Dr. White’s lease until October 7 at 5 pm, and stipulated that no further extensions would be granted. The board also voted to offer Dr. White $1.00 as payment for the dental equipment, based on an evaluation by a retired dentist.

The board regrets not being able to come to terms with Dr. White after a long and difficult process for both parties. We thank Dr. White for her for the dedicated service over the years and wish her the best. We have begun the process of locating a new dentist for the island, with preliminary discussions having taken place with 6 dentists thus far. Once Dr. White has vacated the leased space, more in-depth discussions will take place with interested dental providers.
Best regards,
BIRHC Board
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