Cormorant Control
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Here is an interesting link to photos of a cormorant eating a full sized Pike
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/a ... ge_id=1770
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/a ... ge_id=1770
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It's disappointing that someone who disagrees with a biologist from CMU would stoop to name calling. CMU adds incredible value to Beaver Island. Even when there is spirited disagreements, it would be appreciated to keep the discussion centered on the issue and not devolve into character assasination.
Trish Scott
MSU Grad but I Sure Appreciate CMU on Beaver Island.
Trish Scott
MSU Grad but I Sure Appreciate CMU on Beaver Island.
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I thought anonymous negative comments were deleted from this forum?!? Is the previous reference really productive to this discussion?
Last edited by jam on Thu May 22, 2008 5:19 pm, edited 2 times in total.
jam
Negative comment has been removed! It was a little terse, I agree but one does have to question the LONG process of determining that the icky bird has destroyed the fishery, biology or not the eyes do not lie!! One only has to look at the number of views of this topic to realize there is a whole bunch of interest in repairing the damage!
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/a ... ge_id=1770
About 50,000 birds in northern Lake Michigan for about 6 months, eating like photo above (about 1.5 lbs/day). Lets see now 50,000 lbs of fish a day times 180 days comes to oh about................
Nine Million (9,000,000) pounds of fish each season.
Naaaaaaaaa that won't impact the fish population.
About 50,000 birds in northern Lake Michigan for about 6 months, eating like photo above (about 1.5 lbs/day). Lets see now 50,000 lbs of fish a day times 180 days comes to oh about................
Nine Million (9,000,000) pounds of fish each season.
Naaaaaaaaa that won't impact the fish population.
Commorants
I personally feel they need to be all but eliminated. They are not a pretty site and completely take over their determined nesting area to the detriment of all else. While I am not a true sport fisherman we have to protect our fisheries.
Ed Troutman
38280 Beaver Drive
Beaver Island, Michigan 49782
38280 Beaver Drive
Beaver Island, Michigan 49782
I can help!!!
I began coming to the Island some 17 years ago. When I walked on ANY pier or dock in the habor you could see hundreds and hundres of Bluegill, Pumkin Seed, Perch and bass etc. There were bazillions of them all over the harbor. I would take my kids fishing and the little guys would bite like crazy.
I have now lived here year round for 10 years. The harbor has changed, I have seen flocks of hundreds and hundreds if not thousands of cormorants feasting like rabid chickens! They seem to ebb and flow in flock size but it does NOT take a degree in anything to see what has been happening. Therefore, I volunteer to, without pay, grant, long study involving tons of taxpayer money to determine the obvious (or keep the money coming into any agencies coffures) to buy cans of penetrating oil and spray every damn cormorant egg I see for one season any where in the archipeligo! Between the department of redundency departments, those whose lively hood come from useless tax payer grants and just the plain old nuts things aint getting fixed. Thin the heard (just thin)!!!!!!!! of cormorants and the so called subject matter experts. (there is a big difference from being certified and qualified).
I have now lived here year round for 10 years. The harbor has changed, I have seen flocks of hundreds and hundreds if not thousands of cormorants feasting like rabid chickens! They seem to ebb and flow in flock size but it does NOT take a degree in anything to see what has been happening. Therefore, I volunteer to, without pay, grant, long study involving tons of taxpayer money to determine the obvious (or keep the money coming into any agencies coffures) to buy cans of penetrating oil and spray every damn cormorant egg I see for one season any where in the archipeligo! Between the department of redundency departments, those whose lively hood come from useless tax payer grants and just the plain old nuts things aint getting fixed. Thin the heard (just thin)!!!!!!!! of cormorants and the so called subject matter experts. (there is a big difference from being certified and qualified).
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I sent the following remarks to Eric Sharp at the Detroit Free Press on 6-16-08
Eric,
Thanks for the well done piece about Cormorants in the Beaver archipelago. It was â??fair and balanced.â?
I take issue strongly with the DNRâ??s Jim Dexter who said:
â??Beaver Island lost the bass fishing 30 or 40 years ago, partly because anglers took too many bass.â?
â??That is Bovine Scatology of the highest order. Itâ??s sad that Dexter is carrying water for Cormorant feeding deniers. I was fishing the Beaver archipelago for bass in the 1970â??s. Bass were still present in good numbers. However, the modern age of bass fishing had dawned, catch and release was the watchword. Sport fisherman are usually the first to react to declining numbers of fish by not eating them,â? said Steve West. â??The DNR has zero fisheries data for the Beaver Island group and ignores the single scientific study which concludes that Cormorants are the reason for the lack of small mouth bass abundance.â?
The fact is Eric; 50,000 Cormorants live in northern Lake Michigan for about six month each year. They eat in excess of 10,000,000 pounds of fish annually. For obvious reasons they target the easiest to reach, shallow water, prey first. Even the Colonial nesting bird interests donâ??t deny that. This is not tricky! Cormorants are the principal cause of the â??bass crash.â?
Indeed in the 1950-60â??s there was some â??cooler fillingâ? fishing. By 1975, NO MORE!
Steve West
Eric,
Thanks for the well done piece about Cormorants in the Beaver archipelago. It was â??fair and balanced.â?
I take issue strongly with the DNRâ??s Jim Dexter who said:
â??Beaver Island lost the bass fishing 30 or 40 years ago, partly because anglers took too many bass.â?
â??That is Bovine Scatology of the highest order. Itâ??s sad that Dexter is carrying water for Cormorant feeding deniers. I was fishing the Beaver archipelago for bass in the 1970â??s. Bass were still present in good numbers. However, the modern age of bass fishing had dawned, catch and release was the watchword. Sport fisherman are usually the first to react to declining numbers of fish by not eating them,â? said Steve West. â??The DNR has zero fisheries data for the Beaver Island group and ignores the single scientific study which concludes that Cormorants are the reason for the lack of small mouth bass abundance.â?
The fact is Eric; 50,000 Cormorants live in northern Lake Michigan for about six month each year. They eat in excess of 10,000,000 pounds of fish annually. For obvious reasons they target the easiest to reach, shallow water, prey first. Even the Colonial nesting bird interests donâ??t deny that. This is not tricky! Cormorants are the principal cause of the â??bass crash.â?
Indeed in the 1950-60â??s there was some â??cooler fillingâ? fishing. By 1975, NO MORE!
Steve West