Someone sent me this link in an email, makes you wonder!!
http://www.wxyz.com/mediacenter/local.a ... ayport.com
State Financial Troubles
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Frank Solle
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Rich-
I certainly hope this doesn't surprise you. Why should it? No one in politics walks the walk. They only talk the talk. Economic frugality? Democracy? Doesn't matter. No one is going to do what needs to be done if they think it might cost them a vote. Yes, the state needs to make cuts and tighten the belt, but there is another equally large deficit predicted for the next fiscal year as well. There has to be a tax change also. Someone proposed dropping all business taxes (who pays those anyway but us?) and the income tax while raising the sales tax to 9.5% with a rebate built in for those below a certain income level. I don't know enough to know whether or not that would work, but it's time to try something different.
Aint it?
I certainly hope this doesn't surprise you. Why should it? No one in politics walks the walk. They only talk the talk. Economic frugality? Democracy? Doesn't matter. No one is going to do what needs to be done if they think it might cost them a vote. Yes, the state needs to make cuts and tighten the belt, but there is another equally large deficit predicted for the next fiscal year as well. There has to be a tax change also. Someone proposed dropping all business taxes (who pays those anyway but us?) and the income tax while raising the sales tax to 9.5% with a rebate built in for those below a certain income level. I don't know enough to know whether or not that would work, but it's time to try something different.
Aint it?
I think that we are sunk in many respects and that the parties only care about themselves and not the constituents!! I care less which one is in power if they stay in the middle of the road, not going to happen!! I said to a friend not so long ago that George W. was spending money like a Democrat to which he replied, of course, the party in power needs to do so to stay that way. Have to agree although it would be nice to reset both parties and have a fresh start, not likely to happen. This kind of sums it up:
Tax his land,
Tax his bed,
Tax the table
At which he's fed.
Tax his tractor,
Tax his mule,
Teach him taxes
Are the rule.
Tax his cow,
Tax his goat,
Tax his pants,
Tax his coat.
Tax his ties,
Tax his shirt,
Tax his work,
Tax his dirt.
Tax his tobacco,
Tax his drink,
Tax him if he
Tries to think.
Tax his cigars,
Tax his beers,
If he cries, then
Tax his tears.
Tax his car,
Tax his gas,
Find other ways
To tax his ass
Tax all he has
Then let him know
That you won't be done
Till he has no dough.
When he screams and hollers,</ B>
Then tax him some more,
Tax him till
He's good and sore.
Then tax his coffin,
Tax his grave,
Tax the sod in
Which he's laid.
Put these words
upon his tomb,
"Taxes d rove me
to my doom..."
When he's gone,
Do not relax,
Its time to apply
The inheritance! tax.
Accounts Receivable Tax
Building Permit Tax
CDL license Tax
Cigarette Tax
Corporate Income Tax
Dog License Tax
Federal Income Tax
Federal Unemployment Tax (FUTA)
Fishing License Tax
Food License Tax,
Fuel permit tax
Gasoline Tax (42 cents per gallon)
Hunting License Tax
Inheritance Tax
Interest expense
Inventory tax
IRS Interest Charges IRS Penalties (tax on top of tax)
Liquor Tax
Luxury Taxes
Marriage License Tax
Medicare Tax
Property Tax
Real Estate Tax
Service charge taxes
Social Security Tax
Road usage taxes
Sales Tax
Recreational Vehicle Tax
School Tax
Sta! te Income Tax
State Unemployment Tax (SUTA)
Telephone federal excise tax
Telephone federal universal service fee tax
Telephone federal, state and local surcharge taxes
Telephone minimum usage surcharge tax< BR>Telephone recurring and non-recurring charges tax
Telephone state and local tax
Telephone usage charge tax
Utility Taxes
Vehicle License Registration Tax
Vehicle Sales Tax
Watercraft registrati! on Tax
Well Permit Ta x
Workers Compensation Tax
COMMENTS: Not one of these taxes existed 100 years ago,
and our nation was the most prosperous in the world.
We had absolutely no national debt, had the largest middle class
in the world, and Mom stayed home to raise the kids.
What happened?
I'll tell you what happened. We started taking care of everyone else,
and forgot our own.
And I still have to "press 1" for English
Tax his land,
Tax his bed,
Tax the table
At which he's fed.
Tax his tractor,
Tax his mule,
Teach him taxes
Are the rule.
Tax his cow,
Tax his goat,
Tax his pants,
Tax his coat.
Tax his ties,
Tax his shirt,
Tax his work,
Tax his dirt.
Tax his tobacco,
Tax his drink,
Tax him if he
Tries to think.
Tax his cigars,
Tax his beers,
If he cries, then
Tax his tears.
Tax his car,
Tax his gas,
Find other ways
To tax his ass
Tax all he has
Then let him know
That you won't be done
Till he has no dough.
When he screams and hollers,</ B>
Then tax him some more,
Tax him till
He's good and sore.
Then tax his coffin,
Tax his grave,
Tax the sod in
Which he's laid.
Put these words
upon his tomb,
"Taxes d rove me
to my doom..."
When he's gone,
Do not relax,
Its time to apply
The inheritance! tax.
Accounts Receivable Tax
Building Permit Tax
CDL license Tax
Cigarette Tax
Corporate Income Tax
Dog License Tax
Federal Income Tax
Federal Unemployment Tax (FUTA)
Fishing License Tax
Food License Tax,
Fuel permit tax
Gasoline Tax (42 cents per gallon)
Hunting License Tax
Inheritance Tax
Interest expense
Inventory tax
IRS Interest Charges IRS Penalties (tax on top of tax)
Liquor Tax
Luxury Taxes
Marriage License Tax
Medicare Tax
Property Tax
Real Estate Tax
Service charge taxes
Social Security Tax
Road usage taxes
Sales Tax
Recreational Vehicle Tax
School Tax
Sta! te Income Tax
State Unemployment Tax (SUTA)
Telephone federal excise tax
Telephone federal universal service fee tax
Telephone federal, state and local surcharge taxes
Telephone minimum usage surcharge tax< BR>Telephone recurring and non-recurring charges tax
Telephone state and local tax
Telephone usage charge tax
Utility Taxes
Vehicle License Registration Tax
Vehicle Sales Tax
Watercraft registrati! on Tax
Well Permit Ta x
Workers Compensation Tax
COMMENTS: Not one of these taxes existed 100 years ago,
and our nation was the most prosperous in the world.
We had absolutely no national debt, had the largest middle class
in the world, and Mom stayed home to raise the kids.
What happened?
I'll tell you what happened. We started taking care of everyone else,
and forgot our own.
And I still have to "press 1" for English
Great post!
Great post Richie!
Here, here!!
I'll probably be taxed on that 2nd here!
Additional Reiteration Tax.
Here, here!!
I'll probably be taxed on that 2nd here!
Additional Reiteration Tax.
Ted Nicholas
nich01@tds.net
nich01@tds.net
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Dan Wardlow
- Posts: 85
- Joined: Fri Apr 06, 2007 1:37 pm
Here's a tax for ya!
In San Francisco, your trash pickup is not included in your taxes. You have to hire and pay the one approved company to pick up your trash. No one else is allowed to pick up trash. The city recently passed a $15 annual "permit" fee for placing one trashcan on a city sidewalk for one 24-hour period each week. Each home has 3 trashcans (one for trash, one for recyclables and one for compost) by law, so your annual sidewalk occupation fee is $45. What happens if you put your trashcans at the edge of your driveway but not on the sidewalk? The trash company will not pick them up! They have to be placed "curbside on the sidewalk" to be emptied.
This in a city where the sales tax is 8.5% and the state income tax is 9.8%.
This in a city where the sales tax is 8.5% and the state income tax is 9.8%.
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BobTidmore
- Posts: 757
- Joined: Mon Sep 08, 2003 3:00 pm
- Location: Beaver Island
Taxes to add to the above list
Here is what the Detroit News posted as the new sales taxes our crack legislature added.
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# Carpet cleaning
# Consulting services
# Investigation, guard and armored car services
# Janitorial
# Landscaping
# Baby-shoe bronzing
# Bail bonding
# Balloon-o-grams
# Coin-operated blood pressure testing
# Check room services (coat checks)
# Concierge services
# Dating services
# Social escort services
# Fortune telling
# House sitting
# Coin-operated locker rental
# Palm reading
# Party planning
# Porter services
# Psychic services
# Rest room operation services
# Shoe shines
# Singing telegrams
# Wedding planning
# Wedding chapel services (not churches)
# Scenic transportation services
# Skiing services
# Tour operator services
# Personal care (except hair care, including manicure, pedicure, etc.)
# Security system services
# Mini-warehouse and self-storage unit services
# Business service center services (e.g., hire out payroll service)
# Investment advice
# Consumer-buying services
# Discount-buying services
# Genealogical investigation
# Social introduction services
# Numerology services
# Pay telephone services
# Personal fitness training
# Personal shopping services
# Coin-operated photographic machines
# Phrenology services
# Packaging and labeling
# Specialized design services
# Passenger and ground transport services
# Courier and messenger services
# Document preparation
# Astrology services
# Carpet cleaning
# Consulting services
# Investigation, guard and armored car services
# Janitorial
# Landscaping
# Baby-shoe bronzing
# Bail bonding
# Balloon-o-grams
# Coin-operated blood pressure testing
# Check room services (coat checks)
# Concierge services
# Dating services
# Social escort services
# Fortune telling
# House sitting
# Coin-operated locker rental
# Palm reading
# Party planning
# Porter services
# Psychic services
# Rest room operation services
# Shoe shines
# Singing telegrams
# Wedding planning
# Wedding chapel services (not churches)
# Scenic transportation services
# Skiing services
# Tour operator services
# Personal care (except hair care, including manicure, pedicure, etc.)
# Security system services
# Mini-warehouse and self-storage unit services
# Business service center services (e.g., hire out payroll service)
# Investment advice
# Consumer-buying services
# Discount-buying services
# Genealogical investigation
# Social introduction services
# Numerology services
# Pay telephone services
# Personal fitness training
# Personal shopping services
# Coin-operated photographic machines
# Phrenology services
# Packaging and labeling
# Specialized design services
# Passenger and ground transport services
# Courier and messenger services
# Document preparation
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Dan Wardlow
- Posts: 85
- Joined: Fri Apr 06, 2007 1:37 pm
Two recent examples of our state governments' lack of efficiency.
1. MESC Office simultaneously sent us two notices saying that they had not recieved last quarters payment and report and at the same time sent us the current quarters report that shows last quarters credited payment and a balance of zero. Upon reporting the former to MESC personnel they were indignant and asked for further proof that the payment had been applied. The cancelled check was not enough to satisfy them and we had to send them the completed form from the last quarter which they had already processed since they had cashed the check and shown no carryover balance to this quarter on their form. She said that just because the check was cashed it doesn't mean they got it!?!?!?!?
2. Testing of private fish farmers for Viral Hemmorraghic Septiciemia, a disease that has been found in the great lakes. After recieving a schematic of a small fish farmers farm, Government veterinarians have conducted two meetings involving several state veterinarians and will conduct a site visit with two other state veterinarians and then run their test plan by the DNR before they can tell me how many of this farmers fish must be tested so he can sell fish legally. You see the state had to privatize testing of fish since they didnt have enough money in the new budget to conduct the testing themselves!?!? I guess driving and visiting fish farms around the state is still in the new budget!!
It is no wonder with the above examples the state of Michigan is broke. If we all were this inefficient in our businesses their would not be a private sector to tax in the first place.
1. MESC Office simultaneously sent us two notices saying that they had not recieved last quarters payment and report and at the same time sent us the current quarters report that shows last quarters credited payment and a balance of zero. Upon reporting the former to MESC personnel they were indignant and asked for further proof that the payment had been applied. The cancelled check was not enough to satisfy them and we had to send them the completed form from the last quarter which they had already processed since they had cashed the check and shown no carryover balance to this quarter on their form. She said that just because the check was cashed it doesn't mean they got it!?!?!?!?
2. Testing of private fish farmers for Viral Hemmorraghic Septiciemia, a disease that has been found in the great lakes. After recieving a schematic of a small fish farmers farm, Government veterinarians have conducted two meetings involving several state veterinarians and will conduct a site visit with two other state veterinarians and then run their test plan by the DNR before they can tell me how many of this farmers fish must be tested so he can sell fish legally. You see the state had to privatize testing of fish since they didnt have enough money in the new budget to conduct the testing themselves!?!? I guess driving and visiting fish farms around the state is still in the new budget!!
It is no wonder with the above examples the state of Michigan is broke. If we all were this inefficient in our businesses their would not be a private sector to tax in the first place.
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Michelle LaFreniere
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