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islandliving



Joined: 21 Nov 2015
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 7:05 am 
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When someone calls a sitting board of directors a "rabid bunch of chauvinistic pigs". I believe, was the statement, written by your friend Ken Taylor, but too many lengthy posts ago, to find...it seems to me HE should be getting the building permits.

While I agree public officials do work for all if us, but disrespecting offices, in this way, is not the way to bring change. Just my opinion.

Tracey
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Mark



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 7:16 am 
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K.A. Pike,

I wish it were possible to "LIKE" posts on this forum.
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bigbuck



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 7:27 am 
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Tracey: I would say "If the shoe fits, they need to wear it" My version. Still not sure I want to come over to hunt this fall with all the verbal shooting going on. If I get hit accidentally in the teeth I would need to see a dentist on the mainland. Good post from K.A. Pike.
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treehugger



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 7:33 am 
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Tracey's statement:

"While I agree public officials do work for all if us, but disrespecting offices, in this way, is not the way to bring change. Just my opinion."

Tracey: They can't be voted out, and apparently won't resign, so what would you do?
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islandliving



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 7:33 am 
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Pike, I was wondering if you could tell me the bridges you think I burned and what relationships you think I need to rebuild so that I can get applying for the building permits. ?? Thank you.

John McCafferty
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islandliving



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 8:53 am 
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Well Treehugger, I am not in support of voting them out OR making them resign...I like the board, I think that they are doing a very hard job, well. I also think that there is a lot more to their side of the story, that they (the board) cannot comment on, in a public forum....

Maybe instead of making random accusations, we should get out attend meetings and listen to the proceedings, and base our comments on first hand accounts.

Tracey
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Owen



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 9:13 am 
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Tracey: What about those that do not think the board is doing all it can for the BI community, especially in retaining a dentist? I have a neat solution, although it was used before, to get someone to resign and leave the Island. The board must meet occasionally somewhere at the Health Center. They must also have a bathroom available. If the bathroom isn't cleaned for 20 or so days before a meeting, and a board member has to use it, they would find out how disgusting it is and storm out. Maybe shouting something like "I can't be party to this board that isn't paying attention to the well being of its dental patients." And then threaten to move to the mainland where they could have least a dentist to go to. Strictly a fictional account. But by all accounts in this topic it seems to work well.
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islandliving



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:14 am 
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WOW OWEN!!! What a brilliant IDEA. now why couldn't you have thought of this much sooner before all the name calling and degrading of people, burnt bridges, ruin relationships ect. had to happen. I am disappointed that it took you this long to come up with your wonderful idea that could have been the solution from day one. WOW!!!

John McCafferty
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islandliving



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:12 am 
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NEWS FLASH!!!! The BEAVER ISLAND solution to removing stagnant, incompetent, disliked, related, non performing, or whatever there problem is, board members from BEAVER ISLAND BOARDS. we now have the power to get them off with what we call.
"THE BATHROOM SOLUTION "

John McCafferty
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islandliving



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:04 pm 
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So Owen, your great idea has been going wild all day. I think we can market your idea nationally. "THE BATHROOM SOLUTION". The strongest detergent known for BOARD REMOVAL. I think we can market to many small communities and townships around the country. I have a call into Shark Tank already and it's looking good. I hope you will come forward and endorse your idea and we can both make a fortune. Are you in? Let me know.

John McCafferty
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Darby Campbell



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 12:49 pm 
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I don't live on the island but being able to participate in a lively debate such as this, regardless of ones position, I believe is one of the things that makes living on Beaver Island great!
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Darby Campbell



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 10:57 am 
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Is bump some secret code word?
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Darby Campbell



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 9:24 am 
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Mr. McCafferty, You are correct in stating that people should get "both sides of the story before making a judgement". In this new age of fake news I think that is very important for people to do. With a large platform for debate like this forum I think everyone who wants to weigh in has done so. I've been on boards and worked with boards and the people on them are chosen because they are not timid about speaking up. I would think that if there is another side of the story about Dr. White leaving we would have heard it by now. I must say what you may lack in judgement on the subject you more than make up for in passion and I like that in you. I'm looking forward to meeting you in person next July and getting to know more about this issue and your other thoughts about Beaver Island.

DC
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ktaylor



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 5:22 pm 
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A chronology of events. But first, for those that think using the word nasty was inappropriate I was just following our President's lead when he used the phrase nasty women over and over. I could have used the words crooked, wacky, drain the swamp, low energy, lying to describe the board and "Make America Great Again."

At the December BIRHC Board meeting Dr. White's friend gave the board this letter.
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December 10, 2016
Dear Board Members,
I need to renegotiate the terms of my lease agreement as a condition of continuing my dental practice on Beaver Island.
Last November I moved to the mainland to pursue other employment opportunities to supplement my income. In the last 12 months, it has cost me in excess of $11,000 to commute to the island to continue caring for the oral health needs of the island community. Inasmuch as I hope to continue to serve the island community professionally, it has become cost-prohibitive to continue under the current terms of our agreement.
In your November 2015 Newsletter, you stated “As a community service, the BIRHC offers the use of its administrative staff and space at no charge to off-island care providers. The Health Center hosted about 1,000 specialist appointments this year, saving full- and part-time residents thousands of dollars in transportation costs.”
Since I now fit the category of “off-island care provider”, I ask that you consider offering the same terms to me. Furthermore, I believe that the “Facility Use Charge” imposed on my patients for each charged visit is akin to a ‘double tax’, assuming that your community members already support your millage to keep operational costs at a minimum. My patients, for the most part, are compliant, because as you know, it would cost more to leave the island for dental care than to pay the F.U.C.
However, I can’t tell you the number of times I have heard “Why don’t they charge me this fee for other healthcare services? Do they charge the podiatrist, the optometrist, the physical therapist and the chiropractor? And if not, why not?” My reply is always the same: “ You need to bring your concerns to the Board of Directors.”
I’m not sure where to go from here. I only know that it has been a hardship financially to continue to serve the island community under the current terms of my lease agreement, and if no concessions are made by the board, I will have no option but to discontinue my dental practice on Beaver Island.
Please consider other options so that the people of this community who have come to expect dental care are not left hanging. After all, good dental health is paramount to good general health. If you doubt this, take a look at the latest research linking poor oral health to a myriad of other preventable diseases.
Yours in Health,
Wendy White, D.D.S.
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The minutes of March's board meeting said that "the letter from Dr. White stating her demands were distributed. Discussion was had. The letters will be sent to the new BIRHC lawyer for his opinion. A letter will be sent to Wendy White informing her legal counsel is being sought."
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The minutes of June's board meeting said tha 'No reports have been received by Dr White. Johnson reported Dr. White emailed him her attorney will draft a notice the beginning of the week submitting her 60 day notice.
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Nothing was mentioned in the August 10 meeting.
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The minutes of September's board meeting reflect that a Motion was made that on October 7th at 5 pm the locks will be changed and no extensions will be made. 5 ayes 2 opposed.

My interpretation of the events is that the board made no real effort to help keep a dentist on the Island. I would comment "drain the swamp".
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Darby Campbell



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 6:57 pm 
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Mr. McCafferty, I think Mr. Taylor just gave you the other side of the story straight from the health center meeting and minutes.

DC
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